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[deathboy]

THOUGHT CRIME!

All children could be required to take a test to find out if they are a risk of becoming criminals, new government proposals unveiled today say.

The government plans to "establish universal checks throughout a child's development to help service providers to identify those most at risk of offending," the report says.

Surely you could just arrest anyone who attempts to buy a tracksuit and cut through the whole tangled process?

Comments

[danblood.livejournal.com]

first the government wanted to hand out ASBO's.. now they are handing out self fulfilling prophecies.

yay.

on your last point ... secretly convert all:sports into a chain of concentration camps. chavvy little criminals to be won't be able to resist walking right in :)

[flemco.livejournal.com]

G'DAMN!

On an off-topic note:
It should be noted your song "What If?" is being included in my yearly CD Burn Sampler mongst friends and fambly, with a great deal of praise from those who had never heard it.

I really like that song, but as I listened to it in the shower this morn, I discovered something.

The intro. I suddenly realized that it resembles the intro to Michael Jackson's "Beat It."

To the point that I keep expecting Jacko to jump in 8 bars along and tell me that I was told not to trespass.

[deathboy.livejournal.com]

*laughs* ... I totally would not have drawn that comparison!

glad you're liking it, though, man, thankya ;)

[ophelia-is-dead.livejournal.com]

Surely you could just arrest anyone who attempts to buy a tracksuit and cut through the whole tangled process?

i vote we add brightly coloured spandex to that list. or really any spandex. and anything that will create a cameltoe.

[gaius-octavian.livejournal.com]

Don't worry, Cameron will scrap this plan.

[deviantsaint.livejournal.com]

the majority of inmates in American prisons have YY chromisomes, which has been linked to "hyper-male" traits and tendencies.

oddly, YY's do well in combat, as soldiers.

Maybe the world just became too civilized for people like me.

I'm a YY. I wonder if I'd pass their tests.

-Ds

...FTW?

[(Anonymous)]

Considering "the majority" of inmates in American prisons probably aren't karyotyped, I'd like to know where you found *that* information.

The studies (many done in the 60s) regarding this abnormality have been refuted, largely because they were done without the proper control groups. There also appear to be a number of confounds in these studies -- is it the XYY that causes the whole shebang, or a number of other, unrelated factors? We don't know, and can't claim to, yet.

In the studies I've seen, a tiny percentage of the male population was XYY (not YY, by the way, a condition which is genetically impossible -- certain genes--when lacking from the X chromosome--are lethal; the embryo is non-viable well before birth) and while the percentage was much higher than the percentage of XYY males in 'non-prison' settings, you can't discount that there are 9348754398543 other factors involved in folks winding up in jail.

Why were you karyotyped, anyway, that led to you finding out you're 'YY'?

You sound like one of my bullshitting friends who likes to come off as 'special' -- read up a bit more before you spout silly things.

[drreagan.livejournal.com]

While there is a marked increase in the prison population of double-Y men compared to the general population, its not even close to making them the majority of inmates ( the difference is an increase from 1 per 1000 in general population to about 20-50 per 1000 in prison populations - depending on the particular study )

[thecunningbison.livejournal.com]

YY chromosomes? First I hear of it - got any references?

[figg.livejournal.com]

Here is one:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00149.htm

Except it says that people cannot function without an X chromosone. Perhaps they mean XYY ?

[thecunningbison.livejournal.com]

Must mean XYY

[deviantsaint.livejournal.com]

I got a screened reply yesterday that corrected me, yes it's XYY. And the common misconception is that it makes people more aggressive etc. As the poster noted that has since been disproven, so I was taken by the misconception.

now, the poster also asked how the hell it is that I got the particular test that would find this.

I did a medical study for a company called PPD Pharmaco in Austin. We were testing a drug called Iloperidone(sp). Specifically we were testing drug interaction with what was basically cough syrup. (dex something or other)

anyway, I was in the control group so we had to be tested for factors that may effect the outcome. That's where I learned I was a fast metabolizer (and put in one test group while the slow metabolizers were in another) and that I was XYY. That last fact didn't have any effect on the test but was told to me as an aside.

so yeah, that's how. I was a professional guinnea pig. :)

[wafermouse.livejournal.com]

This in the same week that the Metro (source of all knowledge) warned me that doctors want to raise the age to purchase alcohol, and that there are plans to criminalise leaving school before 18.

Maybe we should just make being born illegal. Surveys show that all evil dictators were born, so it's probably a good idea.

[feuermaus.livejournal.com]

Ah, great minds think alike :)

[markeris.livejournal.com]

the crime issssssss life. The judgement issssssss death.

[welcometopablos.livejournal.com]

Burberry doesn't lie

[badusernametag.livejournal.com]

I own tracksuits,
they are good for exercise
and such

[wev.livejournal.com]

the public school system i went to in mississippi did something like this. kids who were chronically "in trouble" would be taken out of the main school and sent to a.s.l. (alternative school location) which was pretty much a military day school without the actual military being involved (i believe there was rotc available). it didn't help many of the kids i knew who got sent there. most of them learned to be real deviants instead of just annoying the teachers. i know nothing of the uk school system, but beaucraps are the same everywhere. i can't imagine this testing idea being truly effective for helping a troubled child.

[selectnone.livejournal.com]

So... By your own laws, you are guilty of Trousercrime?

[primavera.livejournal.com]

Oh, for fuck's sake..

[numb3r-5ev3n.livejournal.com]

I just bought a tracksuit.

*listens for sirens*

[oholiab.livejournal.com]

If we're going to go down that route, I'm more in support of the killing of chavs, "just to be sure"

It would not only be far more effective, but it would also keep the rest of us out of trouble.

[miss_squiddy]

ION: Did you know they're advertising a film called 'The last Mimzy' on TV at the moment?