Date: 2007-12-02 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zero-shadow.livejournal.com
Yay go go British Rights... oh snap.

Date: 2007-12-02 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robo-toda.livejournal.com
You really expect anything else from a nation that can elect a cowboy to president, and select another, just because of who he is?

Date: 2007-12-02 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mwissa.livejournal.com
Oh hells yes we do.

I'mma comin' for you Scott.

wait...

Date: 2007-12-02 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disgruntledgrrl.livejournal.com
But if we stroll down to Mexico to get one of our OWN - we get blasted.

WTF??

Date: 2007-12-02 01:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-02 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ephemera.livejournal.com
so USA law trumps international law and worldwide extradition treaties now? WTF!

Date: 2007-12-02 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echo-echo.livejournal.com
It took you this long to realise that?!?!

The issue is usually, "Well what are you going to do about it?". And given America has the biggest stick and the deepest pockets, the response to the silence is usually, "Thought not, now SSTFU".

Date: 2007-12-02 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostedmessiah.livejournal.com
I already know this, as I've been kept prisoner in Florida for the last six years.

SEND TWIGLETS.

Date: 2007-12-02 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
Please note: The Fucker In The White House And His Pet Assholes are not the United States.

I blame Diebold, because I have trouble believe that THAT many of the people in my country are THAT stupid.

Date: 2007-12-02 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
Am aware :/ sorry state of affairs for us all, man.

I do notice, too, that that article is quite skewed. Though it still puts the willies up me.

Date: 2007-12-02 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
Sadly, no, it's not particularly skewed. That is, in fact, the way the goatfuckers in the Administration think.

See, the main problem with the Administration is that, well, the only voting bloc they've still got is the "psycho violent loony" vote. And all our political assassins COME from that bloc. So, while there is every reason to assasinate them, none of us who hate the guy are actually violent murderers.

Shame, really.

Date: 2007-12-02 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillen.livejournal.com
I, on the other hand, both doubt the vote count and have no trouble believing that many of my countrymen are truly that stupid/evil.

Date: 2007-12-03 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therealdrhyde.livejournal.com
Oh we all know that that cunt isn't the US. But what really fucks me off is that for all the USians who go on at great and tedious length about the "right to bear arms" and justify it with "preventing tyranny" - well, I've not seen a whole lot of use of those arms to put an end to the current tyranny. I conclude that the gun nut lobby are hypocrites.

Personally, I'm all in favour of guns. My reason is that shooting is fun.

Date: 2007-12-03 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I am deeply in the "making holes in targets while simultaneously making loud noises is FREAKIN' AWESOME" camp.

My problem is several-fold. As I said above, the "psycho violent loony" bloc is the only bloc that still supports Bush. And for the NON-psycho NON-violent NON-loonies who think that the world would be improved by bullets through the crania of, say, Musharif, Putin, and Bush, just as three entirely hypothetical examples that have NOTHING to do with my own person opinions, well, those three people have FUCKLOADS OF SECURITY.

Personally, I think that, if the Second Amendment is supposed to be a check against tyranny, then government officials should be forbidden from having security within their own country. If they want to have security when going into war zones, that's okay. But democratically-elected leaders who are officially simply citizens who represent their fellow citizens should be required to live like the people who elected them.

Date: 2007-12-02 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dooomkitten.livejournal.com
Oh god why do I live here!?!

My country is run by a moron...

Can I claim Asylum...and move back to the Uk?

Date: 2007-12-02 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillen.livejournal.com
Ooooh... okay, howabout we start with Billie Piper and Kate Beckinsale and Helena Bonham Carter and-

Whaddya mean I don't get to pick??

Date: 2007-12-02 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smarriveurr.livejournal.com
Oh, pffft. Short memories. You buggers kidnapped our citizens during the Napoleonic Wars, and it weren't even suspected criminals! So there's your precedent. You think we forgot? HA! We're stupid, but... well. OK. We're just stupid.
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Date: 2007-12-03 03:31 am (UTC)
ext_3375: Banded Tussock (Default)
From: [identity profile] hairyears.livejournal.com


Ask the NatWest three. Or anyone involved in online gaming companies - an activity legal in the EU - who were bundled off the plane in manacles when they caught connecting flights in the USA.

The US Department of Justice has been given the right to extradite anyone from the UK, without evidence, merely by requesting it. Needless to say, no such reciprocal right exists to extradite suspects - let alone fugitives from justice - from the USA.

There is no need for bounty hunters and abduction when they merely need to ask the authorities in England to make the arrest.

The phrase you were looking for is, "I'll be your bitch and you can call me Betty".

Date: 2007-12-02 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] s0b.livejournal.com
I am torn.

I have known for a while about the "US Law == Global Law" thing and can't say I am a fan. However if they actually do go after those fuckers at BAE then just a little part of me wants to stand back and nod sagely.

Frankly though, with the US economy fast going down the tubes and Europe set to be The Daddy they'll have to do as they are told or face the rolled up newspaper of sanctions.

The day rap stars start putting suitcases full of Euros in their videos you'll know the end days are coming ... oh, wait

Date: 2007-12-02 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poggs.livejournal.com
Let us hope that this is an isolated incident of misreading the law.

Date: 2007-12-03 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
No, that's a correct reading of US law as interpreted by our Supreme Court.

Date: 2007-12-02 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siani-hedgehog.livejournal.com
God Bless America

(the rest of us wouldn't piss on 'em if they were on fire)

Date: 2007-12-02 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deviantsaint.livejournal.com
don't panic, we're only here for the suits:

"The admission will alarm the British business community after the case of the so-called NatWest Three, bankers who were extradited to America on fraud charges. More than a dozen other British executives, including senior managers at British Airways and BAE Systems, are under investigation by the US authorities and could face criminal charges in America."

and you're gingers, we' hear you don't like'em and we think they're fucking hot. We'll be back with boat for those.

-DS

Date: 2007-12-02 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
get yer mitts off, I like the gingers!

Date: 2007-12-02 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graylion.livejournal.com
I am so waiting for a situation where they are abducting somebody and the olice get called in and all of a sudden the CIA dudes are facing the SAS ...

Date: 2007-12-02 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deviantsaint.livejournal.com
what makes you think something like that hasn't happened already?

I think the traditional method of solving those sorts of disputes is paper-rock-scissors.

Date: 2007-12-02 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deviantsaint.livejournal.com
you'll know when we're really up to something, we'll bring flags.

Date: 2007-12-03 03:34 am (UTC)
ext_3375: Banded Tussock (Default)
From: [identity profile] hairyears.livejournal.com
The word you're looking for is 'Extraterritoriality' - the sure and certain knowledge that the laws of the USA extend beyond its borders. And they do: it's a major constraint in the World's financial markets.

The only reason we don't get bounty hunters over here from over there is that they simply aren't needed...

Date: 2007-12-03 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritualmonkey.livejournal.com
We will kidnap you and bring you here to our shores to MAKE MUSIC FOR US!

Date: 2007-12-03 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
~ I know why the caged bird sings, I know why ~

Date: 2007-12-06 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleedingmuffin.livejournal.com
you mean i cant kidnap hot british men and keep them in my closet? damn..

Date: 2007-12-06 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
if you ask nicely...
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