Remixism

May. 10th, 2002 12:59 pm
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Fucking *ACE*.

I just got my remix back from Kat5can...

IT KICKS FUCKING ARSE!

We Will Destroy - DeathBoy [X-Ray-Ted Kat5can mix]

We Will Destroy - DeathBoy [original mix]

(it also makes me wish I had their production values... lol... the fuckers... :) )

That, and I get a nice little ol' mention on their website... ACE!

The track itself's got a more menacing, prowling feel to it... production's fucking *swish*, and (as is the wonderful way with remixes), it's set up in a much different way than I'd do stuff... so, I get to listen to my own track, and be suprised by it. ACE!

Right... so now I've got to desperately DO MY WORK, totally NOT GOING TO THE SHOP TO GET VODKA and spending the rest of the day getting shitfaced and making my RETURN REMIX FOR THEM of the suitably anarchic "[Screaming like a] Crack Baby"..

We'll see how long I last...

If I'm anything like my normal willpower levels, I'll have their remix finished by... let me see... 6pm.

Fucking *God*... must work... must not remix... must not remix...

Date: 2002-05-10 05:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
>so now I've got to desperately DO MY WORK, totally NOT GOING TO THE SHOP TO GET VODKA and spending the rest of the day getting shitfaced and making my RETURN REMIX FOR THEM of the suitably anarchic "[Screaming like a] Crack Baby"..


>must work... must not remix... must not remix...


Fucking RIGHT, you TWAT!

You're supposed to be coming to Xtortion tonight...That's TONIGHT, you useless bastard!

Now GET ON WITH YOUR WORK, Junior...or...

...

DADDY WILL NOT BE PLEASED!


Fuck Yo Momma!

Date: 2002-05-10 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needler.livejournal.com
Rar me boys the Martino one and the Maximum defect would NEVER do you wrong...I am actually fascinated to hear what wonderful touches those demented scanners did to your tunes.
I am also requesting you tread careful as Screaming Like a Crack Baby is a mutha of a tune..

Check out the forum on the site..I play keyly and also check the thanks on the album insert see me!!

Givin you a big hug tho cos your a brother and Im on a vibe atm!

you play the mother
Ill play the whore
taker and the taken
on this piss soaked floor
your secret freak
for you ill twitch
you play the mother
ill play the bitch
your girl-stick-boy

rar
Needlin ya!

Date: 2002-05-10 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denari.livejournal.com
Hrm. Not bad, I like the music but some of the lyrics could do with flowing better IMHO. The rythm seems wrong in places and doesn't fit the music which is playing at the time. Have you got the original available for download? Would be interested to see how it compared....

Date: 2002-05-10 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dan-lane.livejournal.com
I agree with what he said!

Date: 2002-05-10 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
They do seem to have shafted the timing a bit in a few places... I noticed that... it's because I actually trigger the various phrases seperately, whereas I'm guessing Martin took the whole WAV as was, and just played each verse start to end.

'not sure what to do about that, as I don't really want to piss him about by asking him to edit it... I shall see what the concensus is before I go whining to him...

The original is at:

http://www.ewtoo.org/~deathboy/mp3/we%20will%20destroy%20-%20deathboy.mp3

... that's got the right timing on the vox ;)

Date: 2002-05-10 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denari.livejournal.com
That's much better. I think I prefer Katscan's chorus music, but the verses work way better with that backbeat on it in the original...
The silent bit they do (about 2 mins in) just sounds shit with the pause you do in the vocals. Works on yours tho as you've got the backbeat synched in.
Overall I think yours is better. Should make you feel good ;)

Date: 2002-05-10 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denari.livejournal.com
By the way, out of interest, what audio software do you use?

Re:

Date: 2002-05-10 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
Cubase VST 5.0, Cool Edit, Sound Forge, and a nice little bagful of plugins ;)

Date: 2002-05-10 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denari.livejournal.com
I'm pretty new to the audio software stuff and am trying to get into it. So you use soundforge to create the instuments, use cooledit to add effects then cubase to make the loops and the song?
I've tried using fruityloops which was pretty cool although couldn't figure out how to use it yet. You tried it? What do you think?

Re:

Date: 2002-05-10 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
close, but not quite...

I use SoundForge to edit samples that I use in instruments, yep (as it has a nicer interface for dropping region data into samples, and a decent adaptive normalise for the vocals, etc), I mostly use Cool Edit to record the fully mixed version (I *could* use cubase, but frankly, I fucking hate it's wave manipulation).

Cubase I use for sequencing, loads of instruments and effects and, well, almost everything else.

Fruityloops is ok if you only want to knock up loops or mostly-loop music... it's like trackers when it comes to making a large / varied track - not ideally suited.

I used to use Fruityloops to make loops that I'd then use as instruments in cubase.

s'a good package, but I don't rate it for full-scale-track-composition ... which isn't what it was built for (I mean, look at the name)... so that's fair, I spose.

I use rebirth (or used to... can't be arsed these days) in the same way, but I always go back to cubase to make the actual song.



Date: 2002-05-10 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denari.livejournal.com
Few more questions for ya ;)

So do you make the samples from scratch in Soundforge or do you take existing instruments and tweak them?
Bit confused to what you mean by "recording the mixed track". Once you have your instruments for use in cubase you use cubase to make a melody/loop whatever then paste it into a track using cooledit? That right?

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Date: 2002-05-10 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathboy.livejournal.com
Well, I've got literally 11 years worth of samples and instruments, so I often use existing ones, or tweak existing ones.

For any given track, I'll have vocals and / or some new samples I use, too, which I'll either modify in SoundForge, or my patch manager.

When I have my instruments (and this isn't linear, I'll go back and forth while writing stuff), I'll write some music in cubase... putting down the melodies, the breaks, well, everything, into parts. These parts are cubase parts... they're not a sample, they're the midi representation which, when played, triggers the right patches, etc.

Once I have the whole track ready, so that if I hit play in cubase, it plays through from start to finish, I you Cool Edit as a glorified tape recorder. Hit record on that, hit start on cubase, and let cubase play the whole track through, while cool edit records (the joys of a full-duplex sound card).

When that's done, I'll trim up the start and end, normalise the full track, and occasionally EQ / tweak it a little, but often not bother.

then mp3 it, and you're away :)

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